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05 Stop, Start, Do More: Aligning Your Goals for 2025

• Jo Day / Lucy Rennie • Season 1 • Episode 5

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Hi, everyone! Jo Day here, and Happy New Year! Welcome to Creative Journeys and our first episode of 2025. Lucy and I are diving into one of my favourite exercises to kick off a new year: “Stop, Start, Do More Of.” This quick and focussed episode is packed with practical advice to help you align your life and business goals for the year ahead.

Episode Summary:
In this reflective yet action-oriented episode, Lucy and I lead you through an exercise to identify what we should stop doing, start doing, and do more of in 2025. From clearing out old habits and clutter to developing practices like gratitude and time blocking, we’re giving you tools to focus on what really matters. This is your roadmap to make 2025 your best year yet!

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • How to reflect on 2024 and set clear goals for 2025.
  • Strategies to identify what to stop doing in your personal and professional life.
  • Simple habits to start, like gratitude practices and decluttering.
  • Why doing more of what brings you joy and productivity is a game-changer.
  • How tools like time blocking and OKRs can transform your year.

Key Takeaways:

  • Stop: Leave behind habits and routines that no longer serve you, from procrastination to perfectionism.
  • Start: Embrace practices that create positive momentum, like making your bed daily or decluttering one space at a time.
  • Do More Of: Focus on practices that improve your well-being and productivity, such as prioritizing sleep or using time-blocking methods.
  • Visualize December 2025 to work backward and create actionable steps toward your goals.
  • Reflect, review, and refine your plans consistently to stay aligned.

Challenge of the Week:
Take 30 minutes to complete your “Stop, Start, Do More Of” exercise. Reflect on what habits, actions, or routines you can leave behind, introduce, and amplify to align with your 2025 goals.

Call to Action:
Thanks for joining me on this first step into 2025! If you loved this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share your “Stop, Start, Do More Of” exercises with us on social media. Let’s make this year extraordinary together.

Here’s to 2025 being your most aligned, intentional year yet!

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[00:00:00] Jo Day: Hey up folks, welcome to Creative Journeys and a very happy new year to you all too. Happy 2025. I'm Jo Day and I'm here with 

[00:00:17] Lucy Rennie: I'm Lucy Rennie. Happy New Year! 

[00:00:21] Jo Day: Lucy, today we are gonna be talking about Stop, Start, Do More Of. 

[00:00:28] Lucy Rennie: We are. 

[00:00:29] Jo Day: I think it's really fitting. It's the first day of 2025. This episode we're dedicating, it's going to be quite a short episode, we're dedicating to what should we stop doing in 2025, what should we start doing and what should we do more of in life and in business.

[00:00:49] Jo Day: Where do we start? 

[00:00:52] Lucy Rennie: I love this time of year. I don't know about you, but I know we're recording this beforehand, but I know I will have taken the tree down, cleaned the house, got into that space of right, I'm starting a new year and I'm setting the scene as how to go on. And so I love that kind of moment where you can really Think about what do I want to bring into the new year?

[00:01:11] Lucy Rennie: How do I want my life to look? What's the next, we talked about didn't we, the next edition of the book going to be? Yeah. And I just think this is a great moment to, yeah to bring that energy and hit the ground. 

[00:01:23] Jo Day: 2024, we've got the first draft. 2024 is your draft copy of that book. And now we're going to refine and tweak it for 2025.

[00:01:33] Jo Day: So what, how do people go about? Completing this exercise in terms of stop, start, do more of. What's the, a good approach to doing it? 

[00:01:44] Lucy Rennie: Oh there's so many but I think to keep it really simple. So first of all, go back, if you haven't listened to last week's episode, go back and listen to last week's episode and do the review of 2024.

[00:01:55] Lucy Rennie: Have a think about your book, all the chapters, what you want, what jumped out at you get in touch if you want the worksheet to go through it properly. But then I think it's almost. It's keeping it as simple as possible, but I would suggest starting with the end in mind. So almost projecting yourself to this time next year and thinking about how you want to feel, how you want your life to look and almost as if you were doing a review of 2025.

[00:02:20] Lucy Rennie: What are the things that actually you'd like to be proud of? You'd like to have learned, you'd like to have experienced and start there. And then we're thinking, okay, so if that's where I want to be, if that's how I want to feel, if that's what I want my business to look like, if that's the kind of clients I want to work with, if that's the kind of lifestyle that I want, if that's the kind of body I want, if that, whatever it might be, and then work it backwards and say, okay, so actually, if that's where I want to be.

[00:02:45] Lucy Rennie: What are the three things then? What do I actually need to stop doing? And that might be, it could be something about inner work and stop questioning yourself, or stop worrying about what other people are going to think. Or it could be stop smoking, or stop drinking that glass of wine every night.

[00:03:01] Jo Day: It could be. Stop being a perfectionist. Yes, exactly. Stop procrastinating. Yeah. It could be all of these things. 

[00:03:09] Lucy Rennie: 100 percent 

[00:03:10] Lucy Rennie: Yeah. And again, and yeah, what are you going to leave behind? What are you not bringing into the new year? And then the second one is, okay, so if you're going to stop doing that, so you're getting rid of things that don't aren't aligned anymore, that maybe don't fit with who you are anymore, because it's, I think that's the other thing, is when we're thinking about our life as a book, it's a really nice a really nice way of doing that, is to think about who's the character, who am I?

[00:03:33] Lucy Rennie: Who's the main character of the book? How do I want this person to be? How do I want this person to show up? How do I want this person to feel? How do I want, what's the energy? And then with that, you can think, okay, so yeah, actually that doesn't fit anymore, so I'm going to leave that behind. But then what am I going to start doing?

[00:03:48] Lucy Rennie: If I want to be this person, if I want to show up in this way, if I want to feel like this, if I want to attract these kind of people, if I want to create this kind of business, what do I need to start doing? Yeah, I don't know what you're thinking, Jo. 

[00:04:01] Jo Day: Yeah, I think it starts with you. Everything starts with you.

[00:04:05] Jo Day: And if you're in a good place, And happy within yourself, then generally tends to have a ripple effect. I've got that word from you, Lucy. Lucy uses this all the time, the ripple effect. But it will have a ripple effect into your friendships, into your business with your clients. If you're showing up and you're feeling good.

[00:04:29] Jo Day: And I know people can't maintain this happy all of the time, a hundred percent of the time, but there's some practices that you can put in place that can make you feel good. And that might be simple things like open your wardrobe and look at the clothes that are hanging in it. And if you haven't worn clothes in 2024, put them in a bag and take them to the charity shop.

[00:04:57] Jo Day: Decluttering your life. Decluttering yourself of people that don't serve you. Go and look in your top drawer in your kitchen. Everybody's got this drawer. And I'm sure everybody's got this. A bag full of bags. I've got more bags for life. And more shopping bags than Aldi. I have. 

[00:05:19] Lucy Rennie: I've literally, mate. We were out at the weekend, so Mum stayed over.

[00:05:24] Lucy Rennie: Talking about decluttering, I'm desperately trying to declutter, and so is Mum, but she keeps bringing these. So this morning, I needed to get the tinfoil out of my top cupboard, do you know what I mean? I've been in the wars now, what I've realised is she's found this big bag of serviettes, of napkins, like All different colours and flat, she's obviously got, and she's put them in my top drawer and I shut the door shut and I swear to God for half an hour, couldn't open the bloody door.

[00:05:52] Jo Day: But just simple things like that. Commit to doing something like that every day in January or for the first week or so in January. Commit to doing something small like that. Open your wardrobe and go, I haven't worn that for over a year. I never wore it in 2024. And if you take and declutter like that, you're making room for new stuff.

[00:06:19] Jo Day: If your wardrobe's full, then you might, when you open your wardrobe door, this is me, I open it and go, oh, I can't justify buying another shirt because I've got all these shirts. I love Desigual that's my favourite brand. And I open it and I go, I can't justify buying any more because I've got all of these.

[00:06:38] Jo Day: But if I actually look can go I haven't worn that for two years, and I haven't worn that one. You can even narrow it down to six months, but then think about the seasons and whatever. Don't be throwing all your winter clothes away, and then you've got to, your summer clothes, you've got to replace them.

[00:06:54] Jo Day: One of the other things, that you can change or start doing, no matter that I stop doing, but start doing in 2025, is make sure when you go up in the morning, you make your bed. If you've made your bed, you know that when you go to bed at night, you've got a nice tidy bed to get a fresh bed to get into.

[00:07:13] Jo Day: So the very first thing I do in the morning, is I make me bed and it makes me it's one task off the to do list is done make me bed And I always grab me gratitude rock. I live by me gratitude rocks. I've got several of them wherever I'm going I've always got a gratitude rock on me all the time and throughout the day When I put my hand in my pocket and I feel the rock there, I just go, Oh, me gratitude rock.

[00:07:41] Jo Day: And then I think, Oh, what am I grateful for? It's like a natural thing. It's like a trigger for me now. Like it's not a trigger. What do they call them? A hook. Yeah. So it's just, I've formed this habit. It's amazing. So that's stop, start, do more of, what could you do more of? 

[00:08:02] Lucy Rennie: So again, on the same theme, it's like you're saying, it's like tools, isn't it?

[00:08:08] Lucy Rennie: It's strategies to get you in that good place. And I think sometimes even it doesn't necessarily, like you were saying, it's not about being positive all the time. Sometimes actually it's a good strategy to acknowledge you're feeling sad. Or you're feeling, and actually allowing that to come in.

[00:08:22] Lucy Rennie: I think the do more of is identify what those strategies are that make you feel good or help you be in a good place and do more of that, to be rocket science for me. I know it's about sleeping, drinking loads of water, going for a run and eating a balanced, healthy diet. And it does sound so boring, but.

[00:08:44] Jo Day: No it doesn't and I totally get it because this year I've protected my eight hours sleep. Other years I haven't and I've not functioned properly, my mind's not been in the right place, I've procrastinated more. But this year, knowing that I was opening another business and working seven days a week, I had to be laser sharp on focus.

[00:09:09] Jo Day: I can't do that if I haven't had eight hours sleep. I have rigidly protected that eight hours sleep as a boundary. 

[00:09:16] Lucy Rennie: Yeah. And it's almost like it's, if you're starting, if we go back to that starting with the ending mind, if you want to feel like that, then why would you not? It's almost then you can, it's getting in the mindset where it's, you're looking after yourself and you are doing everything that you can to allow you to show up and be the person and bring to life, you're.

[00:09:37] Lucy Rennie: Yeah. Your story, is it Marie Kondo? I was thinking when you were talking about clothes, is it Marie Kondo who says about that hell yes? Yeah. And we talked, I think, didn't we, about the no and the saying yes and no to things and people pleasing. I think there's something about, I want to do more of saying yes.

[00:09:52] Lucy Rennie: Yes, to the things that really make me go, yes, that I really actually really genuinely want to do. 

[00:09:58] Jo Day: It's just reminded me of a book I've read a few times and I've got it on audio and I used to listen to it in the car all the time and I might read it again actually now. Now I've just thought of it. The Magic Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

[00:10:09] Jo Day: Yes. I think it's Sarah Knight. Sarah Knight I think it is. I'll have to go check on my bookshelf. But it's brilliant. If you read that book, it's absolutely brilliant. It helps you to make. Yes, decisions. The concept is, she has a bucket called the Fuckit Bucket, and she's giving you almost like this.

[00:10:32] Jo Day: I think she says, you've got a checkbook of so many checks that you can write, you're limited. There's only so many checks in a day, which is your hours and minutes. There's only so much of you in a day, and you have to decide if you're going to write that a check or not. Or are you going to say no to it and put it in the fuck it bucket?

[00:10:53] Jo Day: You could perhaps try something like that, using post it notes. I love a bit of brown paper exercise I do and scribbling on stuff and using post it notes. 

[00:11:03] Lucy Rennie: So isn't it's by saying yes to something, you're saying no to something else. So actually thinking of it like that. Are you saying yes to the right things?

[00:11:10] Lucy Rennie: Because if you're saying yes to that, then you're giving up that or it means you're actually saying no to something else. So yeah, do more of that, I think is really good. And I think for me, what's really important this coming year is doing more of stuff that makes me smile and buzz and happy and, and just enjoying doing what I love doing.

[00:11:28] Lucy Rennie: That's what I want to really be yeah. Not privileging, that's my Frenchness coming out of me, but Prioritizing. Really stuff that I want to do that makes me happy over people pleasing and doing everything for everybody else. 

[00:11:41] Jo Day: And that's relevant in a Personal life and in business, but I think it has to start with you.

[00:11:48] Jo Day: How do you want to feel? How do you want to look? Who do you want to be around? Like you say, Lucy, working backwards, so if it's now the 1st of January 2026, looking back, how did the year work out for you? If you're wanting to take more holidays, if you're wanting to go abroad, when are you going?

[00:12:10] Jo Day: Are you going in October? Are you going in May? March? When? Whereabouts in the year? What do you need to do? What do you need to stop doing and start doing and doing more of in order to make those holidays happen? If there's certain places or clients that you want to win, But you've not got them now, what do you need to do in order to, so it's planning backwards, isn't it?

[00:12:35] Jo Day: And I think that's where the planning tool that we use and setting those pillars and those goals, the OKRs that we do and the goal setting and tracking those then every month. I think that's really important. And I don't know about you Lucy, but I work in 90 day blocks. And then I split those 90 days down into 30 day blocks and then weeks into days into time blocks into hourly chunks.

[00:13:04] Jo Day: So I know every single day where my time is allocated to. And the tool I use, and it's color coded and it's all pretty lovely, is it's so simple. I just use Microsoft Outlook basically. I use my Outlook calendar and I block things in the calendar. By time blocking, and I've been really rigid with it in 2024, time blocking has been an absolute game changer for me.

[00:13:31] Lucy Rennie: Yeah, It's interesting because I think that's the bit where very often people fall down is they can do the big vision and can make the plan, but then actually bringing it to life and actually create, implementing it is the bit that people struggle with. So they're Oh, in the same place again, 90 days after, cause they've not actually been able to bring it to life or do the things that they know they should be doing.

[00:13:52] Lucy Rennie: So I think that's probably a really good episode for us to dig into is how to actually. Bring using those OKRs and the strategy house and the KPIs and really joining the dots so that we can help people to actually stop being that busy fool or stop actually help them to move it forward and do the things.

[00:14:08] Lucy Rennie: So yeah, I think. definately 

[00:14:11] Jo Day: is that iterative process of, if you're checking in with what you've written down, and you should don't just do this exercise and then do nothing. Put it on a shelf or in a folder on your Google Drive and do nothing with it. You've got to keep looking at it every day.

[00:14:29] Jo Day: People do a vision board and they put it on the wall and you're glancing at your vision board every day. It's in your face. You can't get away from it. That should be the same with your goal map for the year for 2025 in business and in life. You shouldn't, it shouldn't just be a vision board of dreams.

[00:14:47] Jo Day: Yeah. It's a vision board of go get it, go and do it, and every week you should be reflecting and tweaking and don't be afraid to pivot, we mentioned that last week, just keep tweaking and refining and reflecting and doing and doing. 

[00:15:08] Lucy Rennie: And I think with that, like you say, it's not actually a bad thing if you completely go off piste and by the end of the year, you're not at all where you thought you were going to be in the beginning, as long as you're doing it intentionally and you're thinking about, you're tweaking it and changing it.

[00:15:22] Lucy Rennie: It's when you go off piste because you've had your eyes shut and you've just head down on the hamster wheel that's the bit where it's sad really. 

[00:15:28] Jo Day: Yeah. The sad for me is if you're going to set yourself a 90 day block and at the end of the 90 days, you've not achieved the main goal, the main thing of the why?

[00:15:38] Jo Day: Is it because you're people pleasing and you're not prioritising yourself and your business? Is it because you've taken on the wrong client? Why here and now are you sitting down and writing what you need to do? What's caused you not go from A to B, you've gone from A to B? B to C to D and now you're on S.

[00:16:01] Jo Day: Like, why is your, everybody's path, there's never a straight line, it's always wiggly like this, but why? Find out the wiggly bits. Is it intentional? Do you get what I mean? The wiggly bits? I've found 

[00:16:17] Lucy Rennie: the wiggly bits. But yeah, it's it's that reflection, isn't it? And that constant awareness, I think, is the bit.

[00:16:24] Lucy Rennie: It's and it's just, You're like me, this is why we, we do what we do, isn't it? But helping people step back because it's so easy to get on that hamster wheel, but actually by being more strategic and thinking intentionally about what you're doing and is it working? Is it not? And where do you want to be?

[00:16:39] Lucy Rennie: It's like you wouldn't get on a plane, with a TUI or a jet two and just go, The captain's going, oh, we'll just see where we're off to today. I'm not quite sure yet where we're going, you'd all be going, oh, God. 

[00:16:50] Jo Day: Oh, I'm guilty of this. I'll go for a walk. I've got a clue where I'm walking to, but that's different.

[00:16:56] Jo Day: The intention is to just go for a walk. The intention isn't normally here. I go and walk towards the abandoned hotel and then that's the goal. I'll get to the abandoned hotel, turn around and come back. And then it's 10, 000 steps to get there and 10, 000 to come back. 

[00:17:14] Lucy Rennie: So your goal is the steps, isn't it?

[00:17:16] Lucy Rennie: Almost. As well. Yeah. That's for sure. 

[00:17:18] Jo Day: But it's get up and go for a walk. And I think do I go left or shall I go right? It's it's not, the plan is just to go for the walk. So I've achieved the goal. 

[00:17:28] Lucy Rennie: Coming back to the pilot, if you were on a plane and you're going, let's say you're going off to see you in Lanzarote you, the end goal or the vision is to get to Lanzarote, isn't it?

[00:17:35] Lucy Rennie: That's the plan is to take me back.

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[00:17:37] Jo Day: So you're not going to go on a flight to Cyprus. 

[00:17:39] Jo Day: Exactly.

[00:17:41] Lucy Rennie: But also, if you bring that analogy as well, so if the kind of like the vision for the year is to get me to Lanzarote to see you, but also then I know that the plane people, whatever they're called, the crew or whatever, they need, they're, The fuel, don't they? They need the food, they need the cabin crew, they need the equipment, they need the plan.

[00:17:58] Lucy Rennie: So those are your big pillars and your KPIs that would feed that. Have we got enough fuel to get to Lanzarote? Have we got enough food to feed all these passengers on the, have we got enough staff crew to do So it's, 

[00:18:09] Jo Day: And that there example that you use that's not for you to worry about because.

[00:18:15] Jo Day: It is, but your thing is you need to buy the ticket and get on the plane. So your thing that you need to get up and deliver is you need to buy the ticket. You need to get yourself to the airport. You need to think about what you need in your case, blah, blah, blah, blah. Once you've bought that ticket, you don't need to be worrying about, is there going to be enough food on the airport?

[00:18:34] Jo Day: Have they got fuel? Have they got cabin crew? That's for the airline to worry about. So the point I'm trying to make here is if you've got a VA. or service provider that you're buying services from and you're asking them to do a task for you. Stop micromanaging people. If you are giving somebody a task like fly me to Lanzarote, trust that they will fly you to Lanzarote.

[00:19:03] Lucy Rennie: The back of that's do the same with what your clients are asking you to do. 

[00:19:09] Lucy Rennie: Yeah, it's the same thing. 

[00:19:10] Jo Day: So 

[00:19:12] Jo Day: there's nothing wrong with over delivering and I'll call them delighters. So over delivering and delighting customers some of the time, but don't do it to the point where it's expected of you.

[00:19:24] Jo Day: And then you've like stretched, stretched the boundaries a little bit too far. 

[00:19:29] Lucy Rennie: Yeah. So I think we need to have a whole episode of this because I think it's something that will really help people. And I know that it's, whether you're a one man band or a, 100, 200, 300 people organization or bigger, everybody struggles with this, moving it forward and actually keeping, cause we all get busy just doing the day to day, which we say, but actually we.

[00:19:49] Lucy Rennie: The goal is to get us to Lanzarote. So I think we need to, I think it'd be really good to do a deep dive and talk them through that the OKRs and all those things Jo may be it's the perfect time to 

[00:20:01] Lucy Rennie: do it. 

[00:20:01] Jo Day: I've got a gift for people. Okay. A little quick piece of advice. I see lots of people sharing screenshots of their home screen on the phone with the Gmail, or wherever, the email app on the phone, and it says something like 26, 793 emails unread.

[00:20:21] Jo Day: You can see the number there. My gift to you is, if you haven't read those emails in 2024, Just select all and delete them. Declutter your email as well. Not just like we talked earlier about decluttering your wardrobe and decluttering lots of things that are not serving you anymore. Those emails, declutter them.

[00:20:46] Jo Day: As the emails arrive, if they're not something that you're not going to read, just click unsubscribe and then they won't keep arriving. So anything that doesn't serve you anymore, instead of letting that mailbox build back up again, just unsubscribe and do that as well with your business email list. If people are on your email list and they're not opening your emails, they're not reading them, remove them from your list.

[00:21:19] Lucy Rennie: It's such a great, it's I'm going to stop us there because I'm conscious of time. We don't want to take up too, but almost the message is unsubscribe, isn't it? From anything that's not aligned. Whether that's in your email box, in your wardrobe, in your top drawer, wherever you are, 2025 is about showing up in the right way, being aligned and doing what you love.

[00:21:37] Lucy Rennie: But moving forward, keeping focused and going there. 

[00:21:41] Jo Day: If you've got, if you're at your max cap on Facebook, 5, 000 friends, right? And you can't take it, you can't accept any more friend requests. 

[00:21:49] Lucy Rennie: I didn't even know that was, there was a thing like that. 

[00:21:51] Jo Day: You don't have to, you don't have to make this announcement of if you're on my friends list, I'm having a clear out.

[00:21:58] Jo Day: You don't need to do that. Just have a bloody clear out. It's amazing. So one of the things I love doing every month, I think it's great. I go on my Facebook, on friends. and I un follow people 'cause I'm sick of seeing them, so I won't follow all these people. And then the Facebook algorithm, I'll choose you another 20 or 30 odd people to show you on your newsfeed and all of a sudden your newsfeeds like really refreshed.

[00:22:23] Jo Day: It's quite nice. And then I think a month later, sick of seeing their stories, like the same 30 people showing up all the time. So we unfollow all of them. And then, it's just amazing there's little things that you can do. Use the tools to your advantage. You only want to see friends and family?

[00:22:44] Jo Day: Create a friends and family list. And then, have your homepage for all the strangers that you don't know. The random people that you've never met in your life. If you still want to keep them. If you want your engagement rate to go up, get rid of people that never engage with you. And then you're making room for new people to come in, and that, on your email list as well.

[00:23:08] Lucy Rennie: Unsubscribe, I think, is the 

[00:23:10] Jo Day: Unsubscribe. Yes. 

[00:23:12] Lucy Rennie: Unsubscribe to anything that's not a line, not relevant, or not Yeah. Must be in your book. 

[00:23:18] Lucy Rennie: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:23:20] Jo Day: Unsubscribe from moodhoovers 

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[00:23:23] Lucy Rennie: brilliant. 

[00:23:25] Jo Day: That's what are the action steps? What's the challenge for this week then? I think it's basically If you've watched the episode now to the end here, go and do what we've said.

[00:23:36] Jo Day: Think about what you should start doing, stop doing, and what should you be doing more of. And however you can complete that exercise is entirely up to you. There's so many different ways that you can do it. I would be scribbling it all down and post it noting. Maybe we put A nice upbeat piece of music on, get your favorite playlist on Spotify or Apple, wherever you listen to.

[00:24:02] Jo Day: And do it that way, but do it. And for me, the key message is you've gotta do it. If you want to get to the end of 2025 and be here on the 1st of January, 2026, looking back going, my God, I did it. then you need to do it with some kind of plan and some structure and you need to reflect and review throughout the year and we'll talk you through it and we'll be by your side throughout the year just to keep you company and let you know how we're doing it.

[00:24:34] Lucy Rennie: It's exciting. 

[00:24:35] Jo Day: It is exciting. You got anything else that you want to say before we wrap up? 

[00:24:39] Lucy Rennie: I just think, no, just here's to an amazing 2025. I can feel it. I think it's going to be a good one this year. I think it's going to be. Yeah. Now I'm old enough and wise enough to not give a shit. So I just do what I want to do in the good way.

[00:24:57] Lucy Rennie: And this is exciting, so that's 

[00:24:59] Lucy Rennie: my motto. 

[00:25:00] Jo Day: I would say in 2025, choose you, start there, and once you start choosing you, Yeah. Life just becomes so enjoyable. I'm gonna leave it there, Luce 

[00:25:15] Lucy Rennie: okay. 

[00:25:16] Jo Day: Happy New Year, everybody, and we'll see you next time. Bye for now.

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